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Comment from: Mike [Visitor] · http://mmassonnet.blogspot.com
About the top level items, have a look at http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu#hide_root_entries
04/27/09 @ 05:06
Comment from: Josh Saddler [Member] Email · http://dev.gentoo.org/~nightmorph
Mike, thanks! I hadn't visited that page since updating to 4.6; your solution is just what I needed.
04/27/09 @ 07:02
Comment from: disi [Visitor]
The very best thing about xfce4.6 is in my opinion the option to use the desktop as in Windowmaker, where you minimize applications to. Fortunately this moves the application part of the menu back to the root level, because you do not need create shortcut and stuff on the desktop.

This new feature is really worth to try, I love it :)
04/27/09 @ 08:30
Comment from: Jan [Visitor]
Actually, the GCC compile used to be -j1 (for profiledbootstrap) but this was dropped by revision 1.371 of the toolchain eclass in Dec 2008, so this has nothing to do with 4.3 (though that may be more memory hungry by itself than 4.2 though, haven't checked).
04/27/09 @ 08:50
Comment from: Mart Raudsepp [Visitor] Email · http://blogs.gentoo.org/leio
glxgears is not really useful for relative comparison. It basically measures how much basic throughput you have - performance of glXSwapBuffers() - how fast render buffers can be pushed to the card. Not very useful in general, as in many real use cases the percentage of that time is small.
Though 500 vs 58 fps does matter there, but are you sure you didn't have proper vsync to blank before, so that it didn't do work you wouldn't see anyway (as a typical LCD is ~60fps)?
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Benchmarks has proper benchmarking ways. Something seems wrong with the wiki at this moment, but google cache has it.

Once you have something like the OpenArena benchmark set up (game installed, the test file and config set up) it is quite fast and easy to get a proper benchmarking result, so why not use it?

Half of the options you tell to pass to xorg.conf are generally known to make things slower. Maybe you are workarounding some driver bugs? E.g, tiling is a good thing in general, framebuffer compression typically too iirc.

Flash has the problem of not using Xv in general. Compare with saving the .flv and playing that back fullscreen with a conventional player (mplayer, totem, whatever with ffmpeg available). flv media can be saved with swfdec-gnome for example.

If XFCE uses standard ways to manage the user menus, maybe alacarte can handle the graphical menu editing too?

04/27/09 @ 09:07
Comment from: acidrums4 [Visitor] Email
Hmmm... I've been with the same problem with my intel graphics card; whit the new kernel (2.6.29-gentoo-r1) and graphics now are better, but if you find a way to speed up more graphics or optimize them and you tell us the way, we will aprecciate it. Oops! excuse me for my bad english...
04/27/09 @ 12:32
Comment from: Josh Saddler [Member] Email · http://dev.gentoo.org/~nightmorph
@Jan:

Indeed, the GCC 4.3 compile does take more resources. I checked bugzilla, and it turns out this is a known issue for both 4.2 and 4.2; lots of people have been hitting the "unable to make bootstrap-lean" error due to running out of RAM. The fix as suggested by vapier is to relax or even temporarily disable MAKEOPTS.

@Leio:

Yup, I've never specified sync to vblank on this machine. What you see is the real change from the old stack to the new one. In this case, glxgears, while limited, really does reflect the enormous improvement in the code.

And yes, I am working around some driver bugs present in my xorg.conf options. Most notably, one has to disable tiling in order to fix a kernel bug. (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git;a=commit;h=f544847fbaf099278343f875987a983f2b913134)

Regarding Flash, unfortunately both swfdec and gnash have terrible performance in-browser, even slower than Adobe Flash. Plus they don't work on all of my regular sites. And I need my daily crosswords. ;)

Xfce's libxfce4menu is being rewritten to be fd.o-compliant, so eventually it will be possible to use Alacarte or similar to edit it. However, that's not yet finalized. (http://gezeiten.org/post/2009/02/Thoughts-on-libxfce4menu-for-Xfce-48)
04/27/09 @ 14:47
Comment from: Ratty [Visitor]
Wow, nice read. Being able to update to the latest package via the main repo or layman is lovely; which is one of many good things about Gentoo. I do hope that you do post monthly XFCE screenshots, because XFCE is just so beautiful and lightweight.

Regarding your remark about playing flash videos in full screen... I run into some of the same problems that involve performance issues with any flash videos and my cpu likes to spike dramatically from playing them. Personally it seems to be a problem with the actual in browser program, but then again it is also a problem under, dare I say it, Windows.
04/27/09 @ 19:35
Comment from: Mart Raudsepp [Visitor] Email · http://blogs.gentoo.org/leio
What I meant with vsync to blank was that it actually defaults to doing that in some situations, without you saying so.
So are you sure it wasn't simply enabling vsync to blank _by default_?

As for swfdec, I meant it for just capturing the .flv for the purpose of trying to play it fullscreen in a media player like mplayer or totem for comparison. If you have other means of extracting the flv, then don't need swfdec for that part. youtube-dl, etc.
04/28/09 @ 08:52
Comment from: Josh Saddler [Member] Email · http://dev.gentoo.org/~nightmorph
@Mart:

I'm pretty sure it wasn't doing that by default; I checked my old logs, and nothing in there indicates it did. Also, 58-59FPS was the best case framerate (most of the time it was running in the high 40s to low 50s), and my monitor is supposed to be running >=60Hz. I don't think that the sync would let it run at anything less than the monitor's refresh rate.

I'll look into those Flash solutions; I also browse sites like Hulu and Yahoo games for my crossword fix. I did some checking around, and it seems I'm not the only one to experience slow Flash playback even with the new X/kernel stack. Still, I'm pretty hopeful. Given all the progress that's been made in the last two months for the Intel driver, I think the future looks pretty bright!
04/28/09 @ 23:27

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