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		<title>Wolf Giesen - Latest comments</title>
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			<title>In response to: Yeah. Why should Gentoo be different?</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kojiro [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>I'd like to say I disagree. I'd like to say it, but I'm not sure I can, because I'm not sure I get the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you saying that we shouldn't be &quot;box thinkers&quot;? Show me someone who isn't, and I'll show you a bigger box.&lt;br /&gt;
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It certainly can be admirable when a person chooses to swallow his pride and to suppress his own opinion (for whatever reason, although such sacrifice frequently goes unnoticed).&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately the &quot;infighting&quot; problem seen with mature open-source projects is not just a matter of differing opinions. It's a problem of rudeness. Animals fight to physically disable their opponents, but humans attack emotions (especially over the Internet, where the physical is inaccessible).&lt;br /&gt;
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In my opinion, competition is a good thing for society and has its place. For humans that place should be intellectual debates, sports and games. If your goal is to win the game, do all you can within the rules to win, but if your goal is to forward (say, for example) the Gentoo project, then don't beat down your opponent emotionally, because while that may make it harder for him to prove his point, it does nothing positive towards your goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wolf, I understand how frustrating  it is to lose time with senseless fighting. If that's your point, then I wholeheartedly agree; however, not all fights are senseless. That's my point.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'd like to say I disagree. I'd like to say it, but I'm not sure I can, because I'm not sure I get the point.<br />
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Are you saying that we shouldn't be "box thinkers"? Show me someone who isn't, and I'll show you a bigger box.<br />
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It certainly can be admirable when a person chooses to swallow his pride and to suppress his own opinion (for whatever reason, although such sacrifice frequently goes unnoticed).<br />
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Unfortunately the "infighting" problem seen with mature open-source projects is not just a matter of differing opinions. It's a problem of rudeness. Animals fight to physically disable their opponents, but humans attack emotions (especially over the Internet, where the physical is inaccessible).<br />
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In my opinion, competition is a good thing for society and has its place. For humans that place should be intellectual debates, sports and games. If your goal is to win the game, do all you can within the rules to win, but if your goal is to forward (say, for example) the Gentoo project, then don't beat down your opponent emotionally, because while that may make it harder for him to prove his point, it does nothing positive towards your goal.<br />
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Wolf, I understand how frustrating  it is to lose time with senseless fighting. If that's your point, then I wholeheartedly agree; however, not all fights are senseless. That's my point.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>In response to: Yeah. Why should Gentoo be different?</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>autocrat [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>Brilliant post, man!  Well said.&lt;br /&gt;
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I dig your cynically inclined sense of meta-irony.  (c8=&lt;br /&gt;
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Beers!&lt;br /&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Brilliant post, man!  Well said.<br />
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I dig your cynically inclined sense of meta-irony.  (c8=<br />
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Beers!<br />
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			<title>In response to: Lozza luv</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>frilled [Member]</dc:creator>
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			<description>Well, for example, looking away when somebody fumbles with bugzie and produces unnecessary noise is being nice :)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Well, for example, looking away when somebody fumbles with bugzie and produces unnecessary noise is being nice :)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>In response to: Lozza luv</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>Not sure what exactly I did, but you're welcome for it. =)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Not sure what exactly I did, but you're welcome for it. =)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>In response to: Me pester. Me evil. Close ears.</title>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>er [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>I agree!&lt;br /&gt;
I think AJAX is... hackish. It may produce pretty pages, but logically it's a mess. Don't feel bad. This sort of thing happens. Too many people with great influence with little knowledge of what they are actually doing.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I agree!<br />
I think AJAX is... hackish. It may produce pretty pages, but logically it's a mess. Don't feel bad. This sort of thing happens. Too many people with great influence with little knowledge of what they are actually doing.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>In response to: Just how "difficult" is Gentoo?</title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Branko Badrljica [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>I have tried distcc, but got burned and dropped it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It worked if you had _exactly_ the same machines with the same libraries etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once there was disparity betwwen them, distcc would produce bad results.&lt;br /&gt;
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It could even be a simple case of not emerge-uDp ing glibc on all machines at the same moment.&lt;br /&gt;
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These problems might be fixed by now, but I'm not eager to try again. My Opterons are quite capable of doing this alone, so there is no problem, while all slower machines are alone- I don't have more similar machines on-line to make a group.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mixing dissimilar (32/64 bit) machines in the distcc group seems like a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
Sure, it should work in theory, but this is Gentoo and too many things could go wrong...&lt;br /&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have tried distcc, but got burned and dropped it.<br />
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It worked if you had _exactly_ the same machines with the same libraries etc.<br />
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Once there was disparity betwwen them, distcc would produce bad results.<br />
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It could even be a simple case of not emerge-uDp ing glibc on all machines at the same moment.<br />
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These problems might be fixed by now, but I'm not eager to try again. My Opterons are quite capable of doing this alone, so there is no problem, while all slower machines are alone- I don't have more similar machines on-line to make a group.<br />
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Mixing dissimilar (32/64 bit) machines in the distcc group seems like a bad idea.<br />
Sure, it should work in theory, but this is Gentoo and too many things could go wrong...<br />
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			<title>In response to: Just how "difficult" is Gentoo?</title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Greg [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>Branko,&lt;br /&gt;
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Four days for compilation is not that surprising in my experience. I have an older Pentium 4 1.5GHz Dell Dimension 8100 (without hyperthreading) that used to house Windows Me. I have been running Gentoo now on this machine for the past three-four years. Everytime there is a major upgrade whether it be Gnome or X11, several days of compilation have been the rule. I suspect it would be much faster with a more modern processor. I will be replacing this machine with a new Intel Core Duo Extreme machine with a 2.9 GHz processor. I will try a Gentoo install on it when it arrives. I hope I get a significant speed up in compilation. One other thing that may help is distributed compilation if you have another computer handy. I have read about it but have never tried it. I am thinking of installing Puppy Linux on the older machine to keep it usable.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Branko,<br />
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Four days for compilation is not that surprising in my experience. I have an older Pentium 4 1.5GHz Dell Dimension 8100 (without hyperthreading) that used to house Windows Me. I have been running Gentoo now on this machine for the past three-four years. Everytime there is a major upgrade whether it be Gnome or X11, several days of compilation have been the rule. I suspect it would be much faster with a more modern processor. I will be replacing this machine with a new Intel Core Duo Extreme machine with a 2.9 GHz processor. I will try a Gentoo install on it when it arrives. I hope I get a significant speed up in compilation. One other thing that may help is distributed compilation if you have another computer handy. I have read about it but have never tried it. I am thinking of installing Puppy Linux on the older machine to keep it usable.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>In response to: Just how "difficult" is Gentoo?</title>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Roger Binns [Visitor]</dc:creator>
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			<description>Something Microsoft does in their installers (eg for Exchange) is present it as an HTML page and put checkboxes next to the items you need to do.  You check them as you do each item.  It doesn't enforce that they have to be checked (some Javascript could do that).  It may be worthwhle doing something similar for the HTML install guide.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Something Microsoft does in their installers (eg for Exchange) is present it as an HTML page and put checkboxes next to the items you need to do.  You check them as you do each item.  It doesn't enforce that they have to be checked (some Javascript could do that).  It may be worthwhle doing something similar for the HTML install guide.]]></content:encoded>
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